tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6298568350190982130.post898878411055296816..comments2024-03-20T05:46:39.773+00:00Comments on Irish Energy Blog: A Brief History of Climate Change in IrelandIrish Energy http://www.blogger.com/profile/16354100971015557625noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6298568350190982130.post-25600853365686646002016-05-09T21:08:33.626+01:002016-05-09T21:08:33.626+01:00Also the AMO is anything but "local", it...Also the AMO is anything but "local", its an entire ocean.Owen Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04376404466654415862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6298568350190982130.post-57317853458915426332016-05-09T21:05:15.784+01:002016-05-09T21:05:15.784+01:00Many of the things "explained" by climat...Many of the things "explained" by climate change theory have not come to pass. The Greenland ice sheet is still there for example :<br /><br />https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=arctic&l=MODIS_Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Graticule&t=2015-08-02&v=-3552927.2140230127,-3142713.6470323494,2042208.7859769873,-508985.64703234937<br /><br />The importance of Valentia temp record cannot be understated. It has not been contaminated by urban heat effect. Whereas as I have shown, the Dublin temp record does show warming, but most of this is Urban Heat. So if you take the Bloomberg graph, most of the warming is due to urban heat effect. The line cannot be linear. Contemporary scientists from around the world tell us it was cooling during the 60s/70s. Valentia supports this. So the article does not just deal with "localized variation" as you contend.<br /><br />My contention that modern climate scientists have lost their historical sense is thus confirmed. Owen Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04376404466654415862noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6298568350190982130.post-65552417839943852492016-05-09T14:51:34.359+01:002016-05-09T14:51:34.359+01:00Try this:
http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-w...Try this:<br />http://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/2015-whats-warming-the-world/<br /><br />The problem with all the above is that it is strictly local.<br />When talking of Climate change you must look at the entire world because local effects may well be different.<br />We all know, ask any farmer that the springs are currently dry and cold, the summers cool. This has happened before of course but if you look at the position and structure of the arctic Vortex it is clear that what is happening is that the vortex has weakened and been pushed south so we are spending much time on the interface between the Arctic air mass and the southern so it it quite possible to claim that we are not warming here and indeed may be cooling a bit but it is explained as part of Climate change.<br />Patrick & Kathiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11847983447588409121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6298568350190982130.post-11521198138642301762016-05-06T09:55:00.260+01:002016-05-06T09:55:00.260+01:00Being a farmer, a hunter and fisherman since the 1...Being a farmer, a hunter and fisherman since the 1960's, I honestly cannot say there is any increase in the temperature of the Irish air since then. While a respecter of the right to worship, I experienced extreme devotion to the catholic and protestant religions which caused people to invent science and think irrationally. In my earlier days I experienced Irish and British media evolution from newsprint to radio and television.It used to be objective in current affairs, tended towards science and give us a lighthearted laugh on Sunday evenings. Gay Byrne would bring on contrarians like Frank Hall and Ulick O'Connor on his late late late show to challenge conventional orthodoxy. Of course child sex abuse was kept off the agenda, but the present climate change issue would be debated openly at that time.<br /><br />Not now, governments and the media simply refuse to any proper debate, any documentaries or other thought provoking programmes.<br />This has caused a semi conscious reaction among the wider public so we are now seeing a bottom up movement with the nomination of Donald Trump, UKIP and independent politicians in Ireland. They represent the reaction of the section of the public who reject the manipulation of science. <br /><br />There is a human tendency to go with the herd, to follow the do- gooder so long as it affects someone else. But its is beginning to effect everyone and that will force more rational debate. Shame on the media, lucky we have the internet to counter them. It has just been announced that Germany will abandon its target for greening transport post 2020. Just note how this will get no media coverage. Voters won't do without their cars and they are best run on petrol and diesel. That won't change anytime soon.Val Martinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03248166816744009791noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6298568350190982130.post-87034960795873477912016-05-01T21:13:35.352+01:002016-05-01T21:13:35.352+01:00Sadly there is an increasing disconnect from what ...Sadly there is an increasing disconnect from what occurred in history and a blind even pathological belief in whatever is the latest trendy cause. Like it our not, the ability of CO2 to have a warming impact is rapidly decreasing as emissions of CO2 rise, this is because the relationship is logarithmic and not linear. Neither can CO2 on its own create enough of a warming effect to heat the planet by more than 1.2C, which is nothing, i.e. equivalent to us all moving some 200 km closer to the equator, Belfast gets Cork's climate, etc. So if there was to be any radical change in our climate due to CO2, we would have seen it by now and nothing we have seen to date is outside of natural variability and trends one would expect.<br /><br />So why the hysteria? Is it just part of the human condition? Certainly history would tend to confirm that. Secondly do people know what they have put their blind faith into? Do they care, do they research it? Is fail to prepare hence prepare to fail rampant? Not least as decision making by the crowd is more characterised by its stupidity than its wisdom.<br /><br />I was in a presentation in Maynooth in December 2014 by three speakers Marian Harkin MEP, Colm McCarthy and Eamon Ryan. As far as Eamon Ryan is concerned, its a quasi-religion and one can only quote Johnathan Swift: "There is nothing more useless to attempt to reason a man out of thing he was never reasoned into". However, what amazed me was the repeated blind 'devotion' of the other two speakers to this religion of climate change, how scientists knew best, the matter was proven, there was an overriding imperative to take drastic action. There was simply no plan 'B', no alternative. <br /><br />However, equally evident with this blind devotion to the one and only true cause, was their complete lack of competency in the subject matter. They never at any stage had made the slightest effort to understand the substance upon which their blind beliefs rested.<br /><br />So anyhow, here are some samples worth considering, as how the IPCC itself treats 'uncertainities' for which to put it mildly there are a lot in its output:<br /><br />See pages 114 and 115:<br /><br /> http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_TS_FINAL.pdf<br /><br />Also Pages 138 to 142:<br /><br /> http://www.ipcc.ch/pdf/assessment-report/ar5/wg1/WG1AR5_Chapter01_FINAL.pdf<br /><br />So they don't understand for instance how clouds are formed and the big oceanic drivers, the El Nino Southern Oscillation in the Pacific and the North Atlantic Oscillation and associated AMO closer to home, actually function. So the impacts of the biggest climatic drivers on the planet are unknown and cannot be predicted. <br /><br />However, to Marian and Colm the 'science was settled', there was no Plan B, drastic measures had to be taken and we all had to get stuck in to these drastic measures. <br /><br />God help us from fools and those who do not do their homework before they jump on the bandwagon of trendy causes.Pat Swordshttp://www.unece.org/environmental-policy/treaties/public-participation/aarhus-convention/envpptfwg/envppcc/envppccimplementation/fifth-meeting-of-the-parties-2014/european-union-decision-v9g.htmlnoreply@blogger.com